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ARmor
Aug 27, 2008 13:23:33 GMT -5
Post by Aratus on Aug 27, 2008 13:23:33 GMT -5
Not sure yet how to do this and dont know if there is really a way..
I want to make a small piece of armor that is going to cover my bicep area only.
It wont be attached to anything else, just strap around the bicep, tricep area.
Any idea as to how to go about this so it doesn't slide down?
Im assuming just strap it down tight?
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Olos
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ARmor
Aug 27, 2008 18:13:44 GMT -5
Post by Olos on Aug 27, 2008 18:13:44 GMT -5
Yeah, you'd probably want to use ties rather tahn buckles, but I could see that pinching pretty badly. Form it, then try it on, and shave it down as needed. Why are you doing it like this by the way? It's easier to attach it to something and make it a pauldron.
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ARmor
Aug 27, 2008 19:57:22 GMT -5
Post by Aratus on Aug 27, 2008 19:57:22 GMT -5
Just ideas, being different, didnt really want to attach it to my armor and have it limit my movement...
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ARmor
Aug 27, 2008 23:20:28 GMT -5
Post by debuenzo on Aug 27, 2008 23:20:28 GMT -5
only armor if it covers 1/3 of target area
keep that in mind*
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ARmor
Aug 29, 2008 8:07:33 GMT -5
Post by winblades on Aug 29, 2008 8:07:33 GMT -5
I've got some experience with this one. My old armor attached to my chainmail with a detachable key ring. The key ring attached via a small plate of leather to a large steel ring, which hung more or less even with the ball of my shoulder. The steel ring then attached to the bicep piece.
I think you're going to have a real problem with trying to just have the armor cling to your bicep. Either it's going to slide down and you'll be continually pulling it up, or in an attempt to keep that from happening you're going to have to cinch it down so tight it interferes with the movement of the big muscles in your arm. Also, the movement of said muscle WILL make the armor migrate towards your elbow over time. I decided to replace my old stuff because of just this problem. I really have to recommend attaching it to another piece of armor. Using long ties, straps, or the previously mentioned ring setup will allow you to keep your mobility without worrying about shifting armor.
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ARmor
Aug 29, 2008 9:29:05 GMT -5
Post by Aratus on Aug 29, 2008 9:29:05 GMT -5
kk thanks guys
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ARmor
Sept 1, 2008 18:31:45 GMT -5
Post by arkodo on Sept 1, 2008 18:31:45 GMT -5
wait, I may have a idea to actually help you. Is this armor for the upper arm area?
Just may have something for you. (Weasel and I have been working on something like that for a while, for Fergus's armor. We have stumble across another way to make armor more lighter and maneuverable for the body in certain areas. It will be implemented some time when I leave the military, but I'll be more than willing to share the secrets with you?)
(sorry it took me so long to post on this one. Was trying to figure out what areas of the body you were talking about)
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ARmor
Sept 1, 2008 21:04:55 GMT -5
Post by Aratus on Sept 1, 2008 21:04:55 GMT -5
Bicep area thats about it, to have free reign to move my should without something bunching up or limiting my movement, plus I already have a bracer for the arm I was thinking of using.
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ARmor
Sept 2, 2008 18:52:54 GMT -5
Post by arkodo on Sept 2, 2008 18:52:54 GMT -5
I already got Weasel on making a blue prints for me to look at. He'll send me a pic through my dad's laser scanner, from there on the drawing board between me and him will be commence on steps to create it, on a easy level for anyone to build if they chose too.
The armor is a cross between 5 fighters if you ever met them in the sport.
Fin, Bibuls, Shinokee, Draggeron and one I haven't got the name from but met at Rag, for the original template design.
Its partially scale but isn't. A layer of scale lining squares sowed down to wool cloth (wool provides insulation help let the skin breath or sweat, when in a fighting environment, kinda like ACU'S in the Military). Underneath the cloth is suede or felt leather, then another later of wool cool so the material doesn't rip or cut your skin.
The image, came to mind of the idea from being too sick of repairing Fergus's armor all the time. This is a prevention plan to help less repairs upon it, along with just plain dealing with it all the time (mostly because the big doesn't know how to not brake friggen armor all the time dang time, drives me insane with Weasel when we have to fix it)
Armor look will sorta be like a Mongol metal chest template with squares (but are actually leather), but we are trying to squirm in the ring circles instead (sense its our Icon symbol).
We are going to fail proof it, after we settle on the best designs for you. Then you may create it, as you see fit when we email you the blue prints, and steps.
Its going to be mostly armor sown down to cloth shirt, that you can easily put on, and not let it fall to your elbows (in other words a short sleeve shirt with scales that allow high maneuverability. But we need to make it so, no wear and tears happen along the way in our plans. Once done we will have a cooperative suit scale arm armor that will help your certain needs of coverage)
(so far, I'm making a bet with him, that he will have to inter layer of suede (or felt) harness across the front and back of your upper body. Mainly around the neck area after that shouldn't be a problem. He'll figure out a way to disprove my hypothesis, in the creation from last time)
Hope you enjoy what comes out of it, once its done.
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ARmor
Sept 2, 2008 20:06:18 GMT -5
Post by Aratus on Sept 2, 2008 20:06:18 GMT -5
So it would be like wearing a tshirt that has leather sewn to it?
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ARmor
Sept 2, 2008 20:18:20 GMT -5
Post by arkodo on Sept 2, 2008 20:18:20 GMT -5
in a manner of sorts, but I highly advice you to make half the shirt first, then add the layers, in. After that, should, complete the shirt.
But yes, if done right, from we have in mind.
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Sept 2, 2008 22:26:11 GMT -5
Post by arkodo on Sept 2, 2008 22:26:11 GMT -5
Please, let me tell you in details of why in a personal message.
I've made a promise to Fergus to not reveal secrets openly of how we(weasel and I) build armor for people, or our inventions. There was a time, when V-hill was about to buy me out of my ideas until Fergus stepped in and said to me: "I'll be damned to have one of my own give ideas out to people who are unwary and not one of my family. Don't ever give your thoughts out so blazingly to anyone, especially my room mate, who will use them against me and the company, Arkodo! Promise me?!". From then on I kept my promise.
I'll give you Ideas of certain things, of the "whys" in it being but together in that fashion.
Afterwards, you may put it together however you like, but know the reasons behind it, thats all. For you may do it, in a way that could tear apart faster. In do respect, and I believe you will make it better than us, once you got a broad spectrum of the "whys".
(I've witnessed my self what your capable of when you put your mind to it, so I trust you, to know what's best.)
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ARmor
Sept 3, 2008 5:57:20 GMT -5
Post by winblades on Sept 3, 2008 5:57:20 GMT -5
Just to point out: Wool is the one fabric that will still keep you warm when wet. However, this means that in a hot environment, it will always keep you WARM. For those of us who run on the hot side, that may be bad.
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ARmor
Sept 3, 2008 8:03:52 GMT -5
Post by debuenzo on Sept 3, 2008 8:03:52 GMT -5
i was thinking the same thing
seems like there might be too many layers for a brigandine
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ARmor
Sept 3, 2008 9:30:14 GMT -5
Post by Aratus on Sept 3, 2008 9:30:14 GMT -5
Not to bash the idea, its sounds nice but if I have to wear some sort of shirt to keep it on, that kills the idea for me. I wouldn't wear it.
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